Legislature(2011 - 2012)HOUSE FINANCE 519

01/27/2011 01:30 PM House FINANCE


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01:33:36 PM Start
01:34:33 PM Budget Overview: Department of Fish and Game
02:47:53 PM Budget Overview: Department of Education and Early Development
03:43:15 PM Adjourn
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Dept. of Fish & Game
Dept. of Education & Early Development
                  HOUSE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                       
                     January 27, 2011                                                                                           
                         1:33 p.m.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:33:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stoltze called the  House Finance Committee meeting                                                                    
to order at 1:33 p.m.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Bill Stoltze, Co-Chair                                                                                           
Representative Bill Thomas Jr., Co-Chair                                                                                        
Representative Anna Fairclough, Vice-Chair                                                                                      
Representative Mia Costello                                                                                                     
Representative Mike Doogan                                                                                                      
Representative Bryce Edgmon                                                                                                     
Representative David Guttenberg                                                                                                 
Representative Mark Neuman                                                                                                      
Representative Tammie Wilson                                                                                                    
Representative Les Gara (via teleconference)                                                                                    
Representative Reggie Joule                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
None                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Cora Campbell,  Commissioner, Department  of Fish  and Game;                                                                    
Kevin   Brooks,   Director,   Division   of   Administrative                                                                    
Services,  Department of  Fish and  Game; Les  Morse, Acting                                                                    
Commissioner,    Department   of    Education   and    Early                                                                    
Development;  Elizabeth Nudelman,  Director, School  Finance                                                                    
and   Facilities,   Department   of  Education   and   Early                                                                    
Development; Anna Kim,  Director, Division of Administrative                                                                    
Services,  Department of  Education  and Early  Development;                                                                    
Representative Alan Austerman.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Budget Overviews:                                                                                                               
     Department of Fish and Game                                                                                                
     Department of Education and Early Development                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:34:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
^BUDGET OVERVIEW: DEPARTMENT OF FISH AND GAME                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CORA  CAMPBELL, COMMISSIONER,  DEPARTMENT OF  FISH AND  GAME                                                                    
(DFG), introduced  staff from the department.  She presented                                                                    
a PowerPoint presentation titled  "Alaska Department of Fish                                                                    
and  Game Overview."  Slide 1  highlighted the  department's                                                                    
mission  statement, which  was  based on  Article  8 of  the                                                                    
Alaska  State  Constitution  and  Title  16  of  the  Alaska                                                                    
statutes. She relayed that DFG  had six core services (slide                                                                    
3):  (1)  Harvest  management  was  measured  by  commercial                                                                    
harvests,  the purchase  of  hunting  and fishing  licenses,                                                                    
angler  days,   and  user  success;  the   service  provided                                                                    
individuals  with  the  opportunity   to  utilize  fish  and                                                                    
wildlife   resources.    (2)   Stock    assessment   ensured                                                                    
sustainability  and  the  harvestable surplus  of  fish  and                                                                    
wildlife;  the service  was  measured  by escapement  goals,                                                                    
threshold  harvest and  catch levels,  and through  wildlife                                                                    
surveys.   (3)  Customer   service  provided   accurate  and                                                                    
meaningful information to all customers.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner   Campbell  continued   to  discuss   the  core                                                                    
services of the department:  (4) Public involvement included                                                                    
the  public   in  the  management   of  fish   and  wildlife                                                                    
resources;  the  service  was   primarily  measured  by  the                                                                    
participation  of Alaskans  in  the Board  of Fisheries  and                                                                    
Board of  Game process. (5) State  sovereignty protected the                                                                    
state's ability  to manage its fish  and wildlife resources.                                                                    
The department  worked to  maintain the  state's sovereignty                                                                    
through  its   participation  in  federal   land  management                                                                    
processes,  the  Endangered  Species Act,  critical  habitat                                                                    
designations,  federal  subsistence   board  processes,  and                                                                    
other.  (6) Habitat  Protection provided  fish and  wildlife                                                                    
protection during  permit and project review;  DFG worked to                                                                    
ensure that  developers were in compliance  with the permits                                                                    
it issued.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Campbell addressed  a  list of  commissioner's                                                                    
office responsibilities on  slide 4. Many of  the items were                                                                    
federal or  international and related  to the  management of                                                                    
federal  fisheries  off  Alaska's  shores and  of  fish  and                                                                    
wildlife stocks  that crossed boarders.  Slide 5  included a                                                                    
DFG   organizational   chart.   The   chart   included   the                                                                    
commissioner,  two  deputy   commissioners,  six  divisions,                                                                    
board  support, the  Commercial Fisheries  Entry Commission,                                                                    
and the Exxon Valdez Oil Spill Trustee Council.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Thomas asked  where Kelly Hepler could  be found on                                                                    
the  DFG   organizational  chart  (slide   5).  Commissioner                                                                    
Campbell responded that Mr. Hepler's  position was not shown                                                                    
on the chart. She explained  that the position resided under                                                                    
the commissioner with the deputy commissioners.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Campbell listed the DFG divisions on slide 6:                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
   ƒCommissioner's Office                                                                                                      
   ƒDivision of Commercial Fisheries                                                                                           
   ƒDivision of Sport Fish                                                                                                     
   ƒDivision of Wildlife Conservation                                                                                          
   ƒDivision of Subsistence                                                                                                    
   ƒDivision of Habitat                                                                                                        
   ƒDivision of Administrative Services                                                                                        
   ƒBoards Support Section                                                                                                     
   ƒIndependent Agencies                                                                                                       
        o Commercial Fisheries Entry Commission                                                                                 
        o Exxon Valdez Oil Spill Council                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner   Campbell   added   that   the   Division   of                                                                    
Subsistence focused on research  and the Division of Habitat                                                                    
was primarily  responsible for permitting. Slide  7 provided                                                                    
a look at where  the department's permanent regional offices                                                                    
were located throughout the state.  She noted that the slide                                                                    
did  not   include  all  summer  field   camps  or  research                                                                    
locations.  The  chart  was  color  coded  to  indicate  the                                                                    
divisions present at each location.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:40:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Campbell provided  additional detail  for each                                                                    
section   within   the   department,  beginning   with   the                                                                    
commissioner's  office (slide  8). There  were 10  full-time                                                                    
commissioner's  office  positions,  which were  funded  with                                                                    
approximately  1  percent   of  the  department's  operating                                                                    
budget. The  Commercial Fisheries  Division was  the largest                                                                    
and had  314 full-time and  450 seasonal positions  and made                                                                    
up  34 percent  of the  operating budget.  The division  was                                                                    
responsible   for   commercial    fisheries   research   and                                                                    
management,  some  subsistence   fisheries,  permitting  for                                                                    
aquaculture projects, and participation  and support for the                                                                    
Board of Fisheries.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Thomas queried  the whereabouts  of Sue  Aspelund,                                                                    
Director of the  Commercial Fisheries Division. Commissioner                                                                    
Campbell  replied  that  Ms.   Aspelund  was  attending  the                                                                    
division leadership meeting in Anchorage.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Guttenberg  wondered whether  DFG  conducted                                                                    
research   in   anticipation   of   legislation   that   was                                                                    
continuously introduced  each session. He referenced  a bill                                                                    
that would  have allowed gooey  ducks to be  introduced west                                                                    
of Yakutat, which the department  had opposed two years in a                                                                    
row based on  the unknown effects the species  would have on                                                                    
the environment. He felt that  it was unhelpful when answers                                                                    
from the  scientific community had  not been  researched and                                                                    
were uninformed.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Campbell responded that  DFG was cautious about                                                                    
introducing  species outside  of  their naturally  occurring                                                                    
habitat. She  had met with  the bill  sponsor Representative                                                                    
Paul Seaton  and explained  to the  committee that  the bill                                                                    
had an  economic development element. She  discussed that it                                                                    
was   difficult  to   conduct   comprehensive  research   on                                                                    
unanticipated impacts;  however, DFG was reviewing  what was                                                                    
known  about  the species  in  order  to provide  reasonable                                                                    
information regarding potential risks.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative Guttenberg  believed the first  step involved                                                                    
establishing  a  baseline for  the  location  that would  be                                                                    
impacted.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:44:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stoltze remarked  that he would be happy  to hear a                                                                    
variety   of   bills   in  committee   including   fisheries                                                                    
management and policy legislation.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Campbell pointed to  the Division of Sport Fish                                                                    
on slide 10. The division  worked to protect and improve the                                                                    
state's recreational  fisheries resources  including, sport,                                                                    
personal-use, and some  subsistence fisheries. Additionally,                                                                    
the division provided support to  the Board of Fish process.                                                                    
Operational  funding  was  derived  primarily  from  federal                                                                    
excise  taxes that  were matched  from the  sale of  fishing                                                                    
licenses, stamps,  and other. There  were 231  full-time and                                                                    
204  part-time positions,  which represented  25 percent  of                                                                    
the DFG budget. She noted  there was a disparity between the                                                                    
number  of full-time  positions and  total positions  due to                                                                    
the seasonal field work research and technician jobs.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Wilson  asked  how much  revenue  came  from                                                                    
fishing licenses.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
KEVIN   BROOKS,   DIRECTOR,   DIVISION   OF   ADMINISTRATIVE                                                                    
SERVICES, DEPARTMENT  OF FISH AND  GAME, responded  that the                                                                    
total  revenue   from  fishing  and  hunting   licenses  was                                                                    
approximately  $23 million  per year.  The department  would                                                                    
follow up with a breakdown of fishing license revenue.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Thomas asked  whether the  Division of  Sport Fish                                                                    
had   more  than   two  hatcheries.   Commissioner  Campbell                                                                    
responded that the division had  a bond for the construction                                                                    
of  a hatchery  in Fairbanks  and Anchorage.  The hatcheries                                                                    
would  provide recreational  fishing  opportunities and  the                                                                    
construction was funded by a license surcharge.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Campbell pointed  to slide  11 related  to the                                                                    
Division  of Wildlife  Conservation,  which was  responsible                                                                    
for  the  management  of   wildlife,  the  wildlife  survey,                                                                    
hunting  opportunities, hunter  safety education,  and Board                                                                    
of  Game   support.  The   division  housed   186  full-time                                                                    
positions and  represented approximately  22 percent  of the                                                                    
DFG operating budget.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Campbell provided  detail  on the  Subsistence                                                                    
Division (slide 12). The division  conducted research on the                                                                    
customary  and traditional  uses of  Alaska's resources  and                                                                    
provided the information to DFG  and the Boards of Fisheries                                                                    
and  Game.  The  division  had 22  full-time  employees  and                                                                    
represented  approximately  3  percent of  the  department's                                                                    
operating  budget.   She  discussed  the   Habitat  Division                                                                    
featured  on  slide 13.  The  division  was responsible  for                                                                    
issuing  permits for  activities  in  anadromous waters  and                                                                    
represented approximately 3 percent of the DFG budget.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner    Campbell   addressed    the   Division    of                                                                    
Administrative Services  on slide 14, which  was directed by                                                                    
Kevin Brooks and was responsible  for logistical support and                                                                    
the development  of the DFG  capital and  operating budgets.                                                                    
She discussed the  Board Support Section shown  on slide 15.                                                                    
The  section provided  logistical support  to the  Boards of                                                                    
Fisheries and Game  and to the 82  local advisory committees                                                                    
throughout the  state that provided  input to the  boards. A                                                                    
significant amount of support  work was required, given that                                                                    
the Board of  Fish met approximately 5 times  per year (with                                                                    
additional  teleconferences) and  the  Board of  Game met  3                                                                    
times per year (with additional teleconferences).                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Stoltze  wondered   whether   the  large   public                                                                    
participation  in  the  Mat-Su advisory  committee  election                                                                    
meetings  (approximately  1000  attendees)  was  similar  to                                                                    
participation  throughout   the  state.  He   asked  whether                                                                    
increased  support was  provided  for  committees with  high                                                                    
public participation.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Campbell  responded that 1000  public attendees                                                                    
did  not represent  a typical  level  of participation.  She                                                                    
expounded  that large  turnouts  were more  common in  areas                                                                    
near large  populations and were  a more  recent phenomenon;                                                                    
therefore, the  division was working  to adjust  its support                                                                    
for  the   advisory  committee  election  meetings   in  the                                                                    
relevant areas.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stoltze thought  people were  generally supportive                                                                    
of department policies.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:51:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Neuman believed  that many  of the  advisory                                                                    
committees  had members  with  up to  30  years of  relevant                                                                    
experience; however,  he thought  that some of  their advice                                                                    
was ignored  at the departmental level.  He wondered whether                                                                    
the commissioner intended to solicit  and utilize the advice                                                                    
of advisory committee members.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner   Campbell   responded    that   the   advisory                                                                    
committees  represented  an  important  part  of  the  board                                                                    
process, given their local expertise  and knowledge of their                                                                    
specific  geographical area.  She agreed  that the  advisory                                                                    
committees were  a tremendous resource,  which she  hoped to                                                                    
utilize.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Campbell   directed  attention  to   slide  16                                                                    
related  to the  Commercial Fisheries  Entry Commission  and                                                                    
the Exxon Valdez Oil Spill  Council. Each independent agency                                                                    
represented  approximately  2  percent of  the  department's                                                                    
operating   budget.  Slide   17  represented   the  numerous                                                                    
increments  received  by  the   department  in  FY  11.  She                                                                    
referenced  a  detailed  handout  titled "Status  of  FY  11                                                                    
Increments for  the Department  of Fish  and Game"  (copy on                                                                    
file).  She moved  to slide  18, which  included two  graphs                                                                    
that showed the FY 12  budget breakdown by division and fund                                                                    
source. The  budget graph (left graph)  illustrated that the                                                                    
management    divisions    (commercial   fisheries,    sport                                                                    
fisheries,  and   wildlife  conservation)   represented  the                                                                    
largest portion of the DFG  budget. The largest fund sources                                                                    
included the general fund, federal  funds, and fish and game                                                                    
fund (right graph).                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stoltze  referenced   current  legislation,  which                                                                    
would  impose  a  fee on  an  Alaska  resident  personal-use                                                                    
fishery or  subsistence activity. He  did not like  the idea                                                                    
and  wondered  whether the  department  was  looking at  the                                                                    
proposed  fee  as  a  potential  revenue  source.  He  asked                                                                    
whether  DFG  thought an  access  fee  for personal  use  or                                                                    
subsistence should be implemented for all Alaskans.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Campbell  answered  that  it  was  up  to  the                                                                    
legislature to decide whether it  wanted to implement a fee.                                                                    
She added that the department  could provide fiscal notes to                                                                    
show the bill's impact if it was heard.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stoltze believed  that the  question was  a values                                                                    
question.  He emphasized  the importance  of  the issue  and                                                                    
communicated   that  27,000   to  28,000   Alaskan  families                                                                    
participated in the personal  use and subsistence fisheries.                                                                    
He expressed intent  to pursue the question at  a later time                                                                    
if the commissioner did not have a comment.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Campbell   continued  on  slide  19:   "FY  12                                                                    
Budgeted  Positions."  She  discussed the  large  difference                                                                    
between the  full-time positions and total  positions within                                                                    
the  department. She  added  that  the management  divisions                                                                    
housed  the  bulk  of  the   positions.  She  concluded  the                                                                    
presentation with a department contact list (slide 20).                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Doogan  wondered   why   the  Division   of                                                                    
Commercial Fisheries  had more  employees than  the Division                                                                    
of   Sport  Fish,   given  his   belief  that   more  people                                                                    
participated in sport fisheries.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Campbell  answered that the  resources required                                                                    
to  manage fisheries  were not  always  proportional to  the                                                                    
number  of individuals  who participated  in the  respective                                                                    
fishery.  Commercial fisheries  involved a  wide variety  of                                                                    
species  throughout the  state and  sometimes required  more                                                                    
intensive  stock  assessment   and  management.  The  higher                                                                    
number   of  employees   within  the   commercial  fisheries                                                                    
division was  not reflective of  the number  of participants                                                                    
or the importance of the fishery.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Doogan    asked   whether    specific   job                                                                    
classifications  required  more  employees  in  one  fishery                                                                    
compared to another.  He thought that the  difference in the                                                                    
number  of employees  between the  two  divisions was  oddly                                                                    
disparate.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Campbell responded  that DFG  would provide  a                                                                    
detailed  staff breakdown  between  the  two divisions.  She                                                                    
added that there were certain  jobs within one division that                                                                    
did not  necessarily have a counterpart  in another division                                                                    
(e.g.  commercial   fisheries  had  employees   tasked  with                                                                    
managing a scallop fishery; however, sport fish did not).                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:01:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Edgmon  recalled  testimony from  the  prior                                                                    
commissioner  who had  discussed the  occurrence of  "brain-                                                                    
drain"  or  loss  of experience  within  some  agencies.  He                                                                    
wondered   whether  the   agencies  were   experiencing  the                                                                    
problem.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Campbell  responded that the concern  was still                                                                    
relevant; there  was a significant portion  of the workforce                                                                    
that was  retirement eligible in  the next few  years. There                                                                    
was a  substantial pay disparity  between a  state biologist                                                                    
position and  a federal biologist position.  In recent years                                                                    
the  department  had  committed  to  a  focus  on  workforce                                                                    
development, recruitment, and retention.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Edgmon  asked  whether  the  department  had                                                                    
addressed the problem  in a formal way.  He wondered whether                                                                    
there had  been studies or assessments  to better understand                                                                    
the  impact on  the department's  ability to  carry out  its                                                                    
missions.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Campbell  responded that  recent work  had been                                                                    
conducted on the salary comparison  and the department would                                                                    
work  with the  administration on  the issue.  She furthered                                                                    
that the development of an  internship program was underway,                                                                    
which  would help  recruit  college  students interested  in                                                                    
working for  DFG. She discussed  non-salary related  ways to                                                                    
address  the  problem   including,  knowledge  transfer  and                                                                    
mentoring programs  within the  department and an  effort to                                                                    
provide    professional   development    opportunities   for                                                                    
department staff.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Joule  wondered  how  successful  the  joint                                                                    
state  and federal  management of  subsistence had  been. He                                                                    
asked  whether  the  entities   had  been  collaborating  or                                                                    
conflicting  and  whether  efforts had  been  duplicated  or                                                                    
pooled.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:05:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Campbell  answered  that DFG  did  participate                                                                    
with the  federal managers and subsistence  board process to                                                                    
ensure  that state  fishery and  wildlife  managers had  the                                                                    
appropriate data.  The department worked to  coordinate with                                                                    
the  programs  to prevent  the  duplication  of effort.  She                                                                    
noted that  the divergent regulations between  the state and                                                                    
federal  programs  were  still  a source  of  confusion  for                                                                    
people wanting to take advantage of the opportunities.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara  wondered whether  the department  had a                                                                    
role  in enhancing  public access  with  the cooperation  of                                                                    
private land  owners. He discussed  that the  department had                                                                    
not actively  maintained or enhanced the  public's access to                                                                    
fishing streams. He cited Montana  Creek and Willow Creek in                                                                    
the Mat-Su  Valley, Deep  Creek and  the Anchor  as examples                                                                    
and  explained  that the  sites  all  had large  amounts  of                                                                    
undeveloped, privately  held land.  He believed  that public                                                                    
access would  be lost in the  future if an easement  was not                                                                    
negotiated  with  the land  owners.  He  added that  fishing                                                                    
guides on the  Kenai River had been advocating  for a permit                                                                    
requirement  to float  the upper  portion of  the river.  He                                                                    
explained  that guides  would receive  half the  permits and                                                                    
the  remaining permits  would be  for Alaskan  residents. He                                                                    
asked  whether  DFG  was  concerned  that  access  would  be                                                                    
limited for public users if permits became required.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Campbell  responded that the Division  of Sport                                                                    
Fish had a  section tasked with access  issues. She believed                                                                    
that the  preservation of  public access  to fishing  was an                                                                    
important  departmental function  and  DFG  worked with  the                                                                    
Department of Natural Resources  (DNR) to secure the access.                                                                    
She  offered to  discuss  the Kenai  River  issue after  she                                                                    
learned more about the subject.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative Neuman  asked how  the department  planned to                                                                    
pursue active game management.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Campbell  replied   that  the  department  had                                                                    
received funding  in the past  for the  intensive management                                                                    
programs.  There were  currently  a number  of the  resource                                                                    
intensive programs, which had  shown successful results. The                                                                    
wildlife  increment  in  the governor's  FY  12  budget  was                                                                    
focused  on the  completion of  the  new Region  4; a  large                                                                    
region that had included  most of Southcentral and Southwest                                                                    
Alaska had been divided in  order to provide both areas with                                                                    
adequate resources and attention.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Neuman  wondered  whether  DFG  intended  to                                                                    
pursue funding to help the  Alaska Moose Federation with the                                                                    
grooming of  trails away  from highways  in order  to reduce                                                                    
moose-car collisions and to increase moose habitat.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Campbell   answered  that  there  was   not  a                                                                    
designated increment  in the  FY 12  budget specific  to the                                                                    
Alaska  Moose  Federation's  efforts.  She  appreciated  the                                                                    
federation's  work towards  improved  moose populations  and                                                                    
highway safety.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:11:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stoltze commended  the department  on its  work on                                                                    
the  intensive management  and had  heard positive  feedback                                                                    
from user  groups. His concerns  had been  primarily related                                                                    
to fish management.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Thomas discussed that DFG  had transplanted 600 sea                                                                    
otters  in Southeast  Alaska in  the 1960s.  He communicated                                                                    
that the number had increased to  3000 in 2003 and 10,000 in                                                                    
2010. He noted  that the state's attorney  general was suing                                                                    
the  federal government  for its  designation of  endangered                                                                    
species  protective areas,  but Alaska  was responsible  for                                                                    
the  creation of  the  sea otter  issue.  He explained  that                                                                    
subsistence   divers  throughout   Southeast  were   all  in                                                                    
competition  with  the  otters   for  clams  and  other.  He                                                                    
wondered  how the  state would  get out  of the  predicament                                                                    
that  it had  created. He  added that  the department  could                                                                    
follow up on the question at a later time.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative    Guttenberg    referenced    the    bison's                                                                    
introduction  to the  Interior  and  wondered about  current                                                                    
efforts that  would change  its designation  from endangered                                                                    
to experimental.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Campbell replied that  DFG was still working on                                                                    
the designation  with U.S. Fish and  Wildlife. She explained                                                                    
that DFG  was progressing on  plans for the areas  where the                                                                    
bison  could be  introduced. She  vocalized that  Alaska had                                                                    
enough  issues with  endangered  species and  DFG wanted  to                                                                    
obtain assurances  that the introduction of  a species would                                                                    
not create impediments to development projects.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Vice-chair Fairclough  told a joke  related to  fishing. She                                                                    
referenced the  proximity of bear  habitat near  Eagle River                                                                    
and  along the  Rover's  Run trail  in  Anchorage and  asked                                                                    
about  the conflict  between wildlife  and public  access to                                                                    
trails.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:15:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Campbell  responded that in recent  years there                                                                    
had  been many  discussions  about  the appropriate  balance                                                                    
between public access to recreational  areas and safety as a                                                                    
result   of  negative   interactions   between  humans   and                                                                    
wildlife. The  department had a  role in the issue,  but the                                                                    
right to  public access  was generally  the decision  of the                                                                    
land  owner or  manager. She  explained that  the department                                                                    
provided land  managers with  risk reduction  advice related                                                                    
to trail construction.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Vice-chair  Fairclough  discussed  that close-up  images  of                                                                    
wildlife in  advertisements targeting tourists did  not help                                                                    
them  to understand  that the  animals  were dangerous.  She                                                                    
wondered  whether the  state had  considered a  program that                                                                    
would  notify tourists  about the  dangers of  wildlife. She                                                                    
referenced  constituents who  were interested  in walking  a                                                                    
trail, which  DFG may  have issued  advice on.  She wondered                                                                    
how to simultaneously mitigate risk  and increase the safety                                                                    
of individuals  while providing opportunities and  access to                                                                    
Alaska's outdoors.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Campbell responded that  the department made an                                                                    
effort to  educate people about  wildlife safety;  it posted                                                                    
materials at  trailheads and  provided brochures  in visitor                                                                    
centers.  She   did  not  know  whether   there  were  other                                                                    
opportunities to  expand the educational program.  She noted                                                                    
that the department would be  interested in any ideas on how                                                                    
to better distribute the materials.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Vice-chair  Fairclough asked  whether there  was a  standard                                                                    
formal process for posting trail closures at trail heads.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Campbell replied  that the  department had  an                                                                    
internal  document  that  it  referred  to  for  recommended                                                                    
measures on the issue of  trail closures. She explained that                                                                    
it was  not the department's  decision to allow access  to a                                                                    
trail  because DFG  operated  in an  advisory  role to  land                                                                    
managers;  however, the  department took  the responsibility                                                                    
of  providing  advice very  seriously,  given  that in  many                                                                    
cases  the advice  was taken  seriously. She  emphasized the                                                                    
importance of  departmental follow up  in the days  or weeks                                                                    
subsequent  to a  negative interaction  to  ensure that  the                                                                    
closures did not remain in place indefinitely.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:21:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stoltze  opined  that Craig  Fleener  [DFG  Deputy                                                                    
Commissioner] and Rick  Rydell could help solve  some of the                                                                    
problems.  He deemphasized  the public  opinion and  special                                                                    
interest  aspect  and  explained  that Mr.  Fleener  had  an                                                                    
effective  common sense  approach to  game issues,  wildlife                                                                    
encroachments, and problem solving prioritization.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative Edgmon  commented that he would  speak to Mr.                                                                    
Fleener  about  the bear  problem  in  Kokhanok. He  thanked                                                                    
Bruce Twomley  for his service  to the  Commercial Fisheries                                                                    
Entry Commission.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Thomas discussed  that Haines  had a  problem with                                                                    
bears becoming  tourist attractions  in state parks.  He had                                                                    
met with  DNR to  discuss the installation  of a  $1 million                                                                    
bear-viewing  platform and  parking lot.  He explained  that                                                                    
bear safety  was the state's  responsibility and  could cost                                                                    
it a  significant amount  of money if  a person  was mauled;                                                                    
the state had been lucky  and no accidents had occurred thus                                                                    
far. He thanked  the commissioner and asked DFG  to send any                                                                    
requested  information to  the  finance staff  email with  a                                                                    
copy to the co-chairs.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:25:32 PM                                                                                                                    
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RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
^BUDGET   OVERVIEW:  DEPARTMENT   OF  EDUCATION   AND  EARLY                                                                  
DEVELOPMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
LES MORSE, ACTING COMMISSIONER,  DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION AND                                                                    
EARLY  DEVELOPMENT (DEED),  introduced department  staff. He                                                                    
began a  PowerPoint presentation  titled "FY  2012 Operating                                                                    
and  Capital Budget"  and noted  the state  education policy                                                                    
statute  on  slide  2. He  detailed  that  the  department's                                                                    
purpose was to  ensure that students would  succeed in their                                                                    
education  and  their  work,   shape  worthwhile  lives  for                                                                    
themselves,  exemplify the  best societal  values, and  help                                                                    
them  to be  effective in  making the  world a  better place                                                                    
(slide 3).  The statute took  a broad approach  to education                                                                    
and included  more than just  the general focus  on reading,                                                                    
writing,  math,   and  science.  He  read   a  DEED  mission                                                                    
statement in  the budget document,  which was "to  provide a                                                                    
quality  standards-based  instruction  to  improve  academic                                                                    
achievement for  all students."  Several years  earlier DEED                                                                    
had a group  of stakeholders build a  broader education plan                                                                    
mission  statement,   which  included  how   students  would                                                                    
contribute to their communities upon graduation.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Acting Commissioner  Morse highlighted core services  of the                                                                    
department on slide 4:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
   ƒProvide and evaluate a comprehensive student and                                                                           
     school standards, assessment and accountability system                                                                     
     based on student, school, educator, and culturally                                                                         
     responsive standards                                                                                                       
   ƒProvide and support standards-based professional                                                                           
     development and mentoring for Alaska's educators                                                                           
   ƒProvide a statewide program to ensure all students                                                                         
     have the foundational skills required for success                                                                          
   ƒSecure and award educational funding to school                                                                             
     districts and other educational organizations                                                                              
   ƒProviding high quality [performance] data to school                                                                        
     districts and stakeholders                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Acting  Commissioner  Morse  elaborated that  a  significant                                                                    
part of the  department's work was to  ensure that education                                                                    
standards   were   outlined.   Local   districts   developed                                                                    
curriculum and  put forward the instruction  to make certain                                                                    
that  students  met the  standards.  He  discussed that  the                                                                    
statewide  mentoring program  was  offered  to teachers  and                                                                    
principals who were new to the state.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Acting  Commissioner Morse  highlighted  that DEED  priority                                                                    
programs fell under three groupings (slide 5):                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
   1. Education Accountability: Implement an Education                                                                          
     Accountability  system  that  ensures  Alaska  students                                                                    
     achieve  high  academic  standards at  quality  schools                                                                    
     through  the  implementation of  departmental  programs                                                                    
     and operational support                                                                                                    
   2. Quality Schools: Ensure schools develop and maintain                                                                      
     their  capacity  to  increase  student  achievement  by                                                                    
     providing   professional   development;   providing   a                                                                    
     statewide  system  of  support;  and,  provide  a  Work                                                                    
     Ready/College Ready  program so that students  have the                                                                    
     skills necessary  to be adequately prepared  after high                                                                    
     school                                                                                                                     
   3. Active Partnerships: Provide opportunities for, and                                                                       
     collaborate with governmental,  private and faith-based                                                                    
     organizations  to  engage  in  Active  Partnerships  in                                                                    
     pursuit of state educational goals                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Acting  Commissioner  Morse  noted   he  would  discuss  the                                                                    
Division  of Teaching  Learning  Support,  which fell  under                                                                    
grouping 1 (above). Grouping 2  related to schools that were                                                                    
struggling or  underperforming and  utilized DEED  staff and                                                                    
retired teachers  to help students  with math,  science, and                                                                    
literacy.  He relayed  that a  strong  partnership had  been                                                                    
created  with   the  Department   of  Labor   and  Workforce                                                                    
Development  (DLWD) and  the University  of  Alaska to  help                                                                    
with Work  and College Ready  programs. He noted  that other                                                                    
active  partnerships  included  those with  local  libraries                                                                    
statewide.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Acting Commissioner  Morse moved  on to discuss  several pie                                                                    
charts  (slides 6-8).  The first  pie chart  focused on  the                                                                    
DEED operating budget general fund:  5 percent of the budget                                                                    
went  to  agency operations  and  95  percent went  to  K-12                                                                    
formula programs (slide 6). The  second chart outlined FY 12                                                                    
agency fund  sources: 73 percent  came from  federal funding                                                                    
and paid  for agency  and school  operations (slide  7). For                                                                    
example,  90  percent  of  the   Division  of  Teaching  and                                                                    
Learning  Support budget  of $165  million went  to directly                                                                    
educating  students.  The  third chart  showed  the  overall                                                                    
operations  of K-12  by fund  source for  FY 12:  82 percent                                                                    
came  from  general  funds, 15  percent  came  from  federal                                                                    
funds, and 3 percent came from other.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Acting   Commissioner  Morse   illustrated  the   department                                                                    
structure on  slide 9, which  was headed by the  State Board                                                                    
of  Education  and Early  Development.  The  board met  four                                                                    
times per  year and had  several audio conferences  as well.                                                                    
Mark Hanley  would take over  as commissioner  the following                                                                    
week. The Division of Teaching  and Learning Support was the                                                                    
largest   division  and   represented   the   core  of   the                                                                    
department's work  with K-12 school districts.  The division                                                                    
included  approximately 90  employees  and  was directed  by                                                                    
Cynthia  Curran.   The  Division   of  School   Finance  and                                                                    
Facilities   received    foundation   program    and   major                                                                    
maintenance capital  and was  headed by  Elizabeth Nudelman.                                                                    
Linda  Thibodeau  was  the  director   of  the  Division  of                                                                    
Libraries, Archives and Museums,  which was headquartered in                                                                    
Juneau (there  were smaller library facilities  in Anchorage                                                                    
and Sitka).                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:47:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Thomas  asked  whether a  recent  bond  initiative                                                                    
would completely fund the new archive facility.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Acting   Commissioner  Morse   responded   that  the   bonds                                                                    
represented  approximately  20   percent  of  the  necessary                                                                    
funding for the  facility. The department was  in the design                                                                    
process,  which   had  been  funded  by   prior  legislative                                                                    
appropriation.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stoltze  observed that  the Board of  Education and                                                                    
DFG commissioner  selection process was different  from that                                                                    
of  other   departments.  He  wondered  whether   the  board                                                                    
solicited candidates or was given a name.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Acting  Commissioner Morse  answered  that discussions  with                                                                    
the governor's  office had  led the  board to  interview Mr.                                                                    
Hanley.  Subsequently  the  governor  accepted  the  board's                                                                    
recommendation to appoint Mr. Hanley to the position.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stoltze  compared the board's selection  process to                                                                    
the process used by DFG.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Edgmon  remarked   that   there  had   been                                                                    
solicitation  process  for  the  joint  boards  of  DFG.  He                                                                    
wondered   whether   DEED   had   a   similar   solicitation                                                                    
requirement or  whether it was  able to take  the governor's                                                                    
recommendation.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Acting  Commissioner Morse  replied that  the board  was not                                                                    
required  to  conduct a  solicitation;  it  was required  to                                                                    
interview  a candidate,  select a  candidate, and  forward a                                                                    
name to  the governor  for approval. He  was aware  that the                                                                    
chairman  of  the  board  had  spoken  with  the  governor's                                                                    
office, but had no further details.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stoltze  commented on the solicitation  process for                                                                    
other agencies including the Board of Regents.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:51:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Acting  Commissioner Morse  continued  to  discuss the  DEED                                                                    
structure   (slide  9).   The  Division   of  Administrative                                                                    
Services  was directed  by  Anna Kim.  The  Division of  Mt.                                                                    
Edgecumbe High School was directed  by Randy Hawk, which was                                                                    
a  boarding school  in Sitka  that housed  approximately 400                                                                    
students.  He  discussed  the  three  DEED  Commissions  and                                                                    
Boards  (slide  10).  The  Professional  Teaching  Practices                                                                    
Commission  located in  Anchorage was  directed by  Patricia                                                                    
Truman and  had two employees.  The Alaska State  Council on                                                                    
the Arts was directed by Charlotte Fox and had 6 employees.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stoltze   asked  about  the  composition   of  the                                                                    
Professional  Teaching Practices  Commission and  whether it                                                                    
handled disciplinary and license suspensions.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Acting  Commissioner  Morse  responded that  the  commission                                                                    
handled  any disciplinary  actions  against individuals  who                                                                    
had teacher  or administrative certification in  Alaska. The                                                                    
commission met  regularly and  included a  superintendent, a                                                                    
principal, and six teachers.  Violations of the Professional                                                                    
Teaching  Practices  Ethics  Act were  investigated  by  the                                                                    
commission's  executive  director  and  were  heard  by  the                                                                    
board,  which would  determine  any  disciplinary action  or                                                                    
dismissal of a case.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stoltze wondered what  types of disciplinary issues                                                                    
the board handled (e.g. criminal, competency, or other).                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Acting  Commissioner Morse  responded that  a public  report                                                                    
was  compiled  annually, which  DEED  could  provide to  the                                                                    
committee. He  relayed that the  types of  complaints varied                                                                    
and included  illegal actions, helping students  to cheat on                                                                    
a test,  inappropriate behavior with  a student,  and other.                                                                    
Less serious offenses  could result in a  reprimand, but not                                                                    
a loss in certificate.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stoltze  wondered whether  a teacher would  have to                                                                    
break the law to have their license revoked in Alaska.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Acting Commissioner  Morse clarified that a  teacher did not                                                                    
have to  break the law to  lose a license. He  referred to a                                                                    
case in  which a teacher  had lost her  teaching certificate                                                                    
after helping students on a statewide exam.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:56:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Acting   Commissioner  Morse   continued   to  discuss   the                                                                    
commissions and  boards (slide 10). The  Juneau-based Alaska                                                                    
Commission on Postsecondary Education  was directed by Diane                                                                    
Barrans.  He  pointed  to department  line  items  from  the                                                                    
governor's FY 12 budget on slide 11:                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
  ƒThe Executive Administration had five staff members.                                                                        
   ƒThe    Administrative   Services    Division   included                                                                    
     Administrative  Services and  Information Services  and                                                                    
     had 16 staff.                                                                                                              
   ƒThe Division  of School, Finance and  Facilities had 13                                                                    
     staff.                                                                                                                     
   ƒStudent  and   School  Achievement,  State   System  of                                                                    
     Support,    Statewide   Mentoring    Program,   Teacher                                                                    
     Certification,  Child  Nutrition,  and  Early  Learning                                                                    
     Coordination were all included  in one division and had                                                                    
     a staff  of 94, which  was the core of  the department.                                                                    
     Student and  School Achievement included  slightly over                                                                    
     $10  million  of  which,  $7.6   million  went  to  the                                                                    
     department's assessment  contracts and work.  There was                                                                    
     $165  million in  federal funds,  90  percent of  which                                                                    
     went  to  school  districts through  special  education                                                                    
     funds or  Title 1 funds (money  to support economically                                                                    
     disadvantaged students in schools).                                                                                        
   ƒThere was slightly over $50  million in federal funding                                                                    
     budgeted  to Child  Nutrition  Services  of which,  $49                                                                    
     million  went   to  grants   to  directly   fund  child                                                                    
     nutrition services.                                                                                                        
   ƒThe Professional Teaching  Practices Commission had two                                                                    
     staff.                                                                                                                     
   ƒThe Alaska State Council on the Arts had six staff.                                                                        
   ƒMt.  Edgecumbe  Boarding  School and  State  Facilities                                                                    
     Maintenance were  part of Mt. Edgecumbe  High School in                                                                    
     Sitka and had 53 staff.                                                                                                    
   ƒState Facilities Rent was department-wide.                                                                                 
   ƒLibrary  Operations,  Archives, and  Museum  Operations                                                                    
     had a staff of 66.                                                                                                         
   ƒThe  last  three items  on  the  slide related  to  the                                                                    
     Alaska  Commission  on Postsecondary  Education,  which                                                                    
     had a staff of 101.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Thomas  asked whether there  had been  any dropouts                                                                    
in  the WWAMI  [Washington,  Wyoming,  Alaska, Montana,  and                                                                    
Idaho]  program. Acting  Commissioner  Morse responded  that                                                                    
Diane  Barrans would  provide the  information to  committee                                                                    
members.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Thomas was interested in  hearing about the success                                                                    
of  the program.  Acting Commissioner  Morse  would ask  Ms.                                                                    
Barrans to follow up with the detailed information.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative Doogan  asked how  the budget  allocation had                                                                    
been derived  for the Performance Scholarship  Awards (slide                                                                    
11).  Acting  Commissioner  Morse  answered  that  he  would                                                                    
follow up with the requested  information. He noted that the                                                                    
department worked  very closely  with the  Alaska Commission                                                                    
on  Postsecondary  Education  and had  modeled  the  program                                                                    
after the experience of other states.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:01:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Acting Commissioner  Morse directed  attention to  slide 12,                                                                    
which  outlined   FY  12  budget  items   for  K-12  formula                                                                    
programs.   The Foundation  Program represented  the largest                                                                    
of the  budget items. Other programs  included Boarding Home                                                                    
Grants,   Youth  in   Detention,   Special  Schools,   Pupil                                                                    
Transportation,   the   Alaska   Challenge   Youth   Academy                                                                    
(operated under  a separate state  agency), and  School Debt                                                                    
Reimbursement.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Acting Commissioner  Morse highlighted FY 12  capital budget                                                                    
items on  slide 13.  Capital budget items  included deferred                                                                    
maintenance  at  Mt.  Edgecumbe   High  School  and  capital                                                                    
projects  including  assessment  work  on  abandoned  school                                                                    
sites, the  Stratton library roof and  side replacement, and                                                                    
a school construction  project. He noted that  there had not                                                                    
been  a school  construction  in the  capital  budget for  a                                                                    
number of years  and that the project  included a renovation                                                                    
and  addition  to  the Quinhagak  school.  The  budget  also                                                                    
included 14 major maintenance grants projects.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Wilson asked  what criteria  were considered                                                                    
when  the  maintenance list  was  developed  and noted  that                                                                    
Fairbanks  schools  had  not made  the  list  despite  their                                                                    
maintenance needs.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Acting Commissioner  Morse answered that there  was specific                                                                    
evaluation  criteria.  He  could  not  speak  to  individual                                                                    
districts, but  could provide a  list of  submitted projects                                                                    
and the  evaluation criteria that  were used. Slide  13 only                                                                    
showed the top 14 maintenance projects on the state's list.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wilson  wondered whether a  borough's ability                                                                    
to put  its own funding  towards maintenance projects  was a                                                                    
factor included on the criteria list.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
ELIZABETH   NUDELMAN,    DIRECTOR,   SCHOOL    FINANCE   AND                                                                    
FACILITIES, DEPARTMENT  OF EDUCATION AND  EARLY DEVELOPMENT,                                                                    
answered that  the department  ranked projects  submitted by                                                                    
district's  each  fall.  She  explained  that  a  district's                                                                    
ability  to receive  bonding approved  by voters  was not  a                                                                    
criterion. She added that the  division could follow up with                                                                    
more detail.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stoltze asked  about  the severity  of the  Sidney                                                                    
Huntington  School  fire and  whether  it  would be  handled                                                                    
immediately,  through  the   Legislative  Budget  and  Audit                                                                    
Committee, or other.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Acting Commissioner Morse clarified  that the department had                                                                    
been  in constant  contact with  the district  following the                                                                    
fire  and  DEED  staff  were  scheduled  to  meet  with  the                                                                    
superintendent the  following day. The damage  was estimated                                                                    
between $2  million and $3  million and DEED was  working to                                                                    
determine  how  much  insurance  would  cover.  The  damaged                                                                    
building  was designated  for vocational  education and  was                                                                    
separate from  the other  school facilities.  The department                                                                    
had  been  keeping  the  Office  of  Management  and  Budget                                                                    
informed and was working to  determine what was necessary to                                                                    
move forward.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Edgmon  asked how  past legislation  (SB 237)                                                                    
relating  to energy  standards in  new schools  would impact                                                                    
the Quinhagak school construction.  He also wondered whether                                                                    
provisions  in   the  bill  related  to   major  maintenance                                                                    
projects.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Nudelman responded  that the  division would  follow up                                                                    
with detailed information.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Edgmon  had  previously been  on  the  House                                                                    
Energy Committee and believed  the bill's provision relating                                                                    
to energy  efficiency requirements  in new schools  was long                                                                    
overdue.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:08:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara discussed  that  the  FY 12  foundation                                                                    
formula funding had  not been increased from  the prior year                                                                    
and wondered how flat funding  education would allow for any                                                                    
improvements  to the  education system.  He relayed  concern                                                                    
that without an  increase there would be  fewer teachers and                                                                    
support  staff in  a system  that was  not working  well. He                                                                    
noted  that due  to underfunding  in Anchorage  the Kids  in                                                                    
Transition  program, which  helped homeless  youth graduate,                                                                    
would have to cut back its two-person staff down to one.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Acting Commissioner  Morse answered  that there was  a $12.5                                                                    
million  increase in  funding; however,  because it  was the                                                                    
fourth  year of  a  five-year  cost differential,  Anchorage                                                                    
would  not  see  the  increase.   He  thought  the  Kids  in                                                                    
Transition  program  had  potentially  been  paid  for  with                                                                    
federal funds. He  added that there were  some federal funds                                                                    
that districts still  had access to, which  were included in                                                                    
the budget.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara  reiterated his  concern about  the flat                                                                    
funding  of  education. He  noted  that  rural districts  in                                                                    
their last year of cost  differential would be forced to use                                                                    
some  of the  money aimed  at cost  differential to  keep up                                                                    
with  inflation. He  believed that  money intended  to catch                                                                    
districts up  would have  to be used  for districts  to stay                                                                    
even.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Acting    Commissioner    Morse    replied    that    school                                                                    
superintendents  would  need  to analyze  their  budgets  to                                                                    
become  more targeted  and to  determine where  efficiencies                                                                    
could be created. He had worked  in schools for 17 years and                                                                    
believed it  was important to target  available resources in                                                                    
order to make a difference in student achievement.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara  asked whether the commissioner  had any                                                                    
recommendations.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Acting Commissioner  Morse answered that the  department was                                                                    
working on  several ways  to advance  achievement statewide;                                                                    
however, it was hard to  make a broad statement about budget                                                                    
recommendations  without  looking  at  specific  issues  and                                                                    
districts.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:14:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Acting  Commissioner  Morse  pointed   to  slide  14,  which                                                                    
pertained to federal funding from  the American Recovery and                                                                    
Reinvestment   Act   (ARRA).   The   department   had   been                                                                    
administering   the  numerous   programs,  which   had  been                                                                    
challenging. Stimulus  funding from  the ARRA that  had paid                                                                    
for the majority of the programs  was required to be used by                                                                    
September  2011. Some  of  the funding  had  been spent  and                                                                    
other money had been encumbered  by districts to spend prior                                                                    
to the  September deadline. The  department was  required to                                                                    
provide the federal  government with a report  on jobs saved                                                                    
and the most recent quarter was  shown in the last column on                                                                    
slide 14.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wilson wondered what  would happen to the 359                                                                    
jobs  that  had been  created  or  saved after  the  federal                                                                    
funding was gone.  She thought there had  been hopes against                                                                    
using the money for jobs.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Acting Commissioner  Morse responded  that some of  the jobs                                                                    
were   temporary  and   in  other   cases  districts   would                                                                    
reprioritize  their  budgets  if   the  new  positions  were                                                                    
important. He  explained that  DEED had  encouraged one-time                                                                    
expenditures.  Districts had  also been  required to  sign a                                                                    
document that included the  legislature's intent language to                                                                    
ensure  that they  understood that  the legislature  did not                                                                    
intend to provide additional funding later.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative Doogan  wondered how the  Temporary Emergency                                                                    
Food  Assistance  program  had  spent  more  than  had  been                                                                    
received.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
ANNA  KIM, DIRECTOR,  DIVISION  OF ADMINISTRATIVE  SERVICES,                                                                    
DEPARTMENT  OF EDUCATION  AND  EARLY DEVELOPMENT,  responded                                                                    
that  the ARRA  funding was  also helping  with the  current                                                                    
Temporary  Emergency  Food  Assistance  program;  therefore,                                                                    
expenditures may have been included by mistake.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Guttenberg wondered  why none  of the  money                                                                    
available for  the Broadband Technology  Opportunity program                                                                    
had been spent  and how there were  four temporary positions                                                                    
listed under the program.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Kim answered that the  broadband grant had recently been                                                                    
authorized by  the Legislative  Budget and  Audit Committee.                                                                    
The  four temporary  positions  were  included because  they                                                                    
would be established for the duration of the grant.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative Guttenberg asked  where the technology grants                                                                    
would be  used. Ms.  Kim responded  that DEED  would provide                                                                    
the information to the committee.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Acting Commissioner  Morse furthered that the  grant was for                                                                    
state  libraries   to  bring   broadband  access   to  local                                                                    
libraries throughout  the state.  The state had  worked with                                                                    
the  Rasmuson and  Gates Foundations  to  secure the  grant,                                                                    
which  began  in  December  2010 and  would  not  expire  in                                                                    
September 2011 like the others.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:20:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Neuman  thought  that broadband  grants  had                                                                    
been offered through public libraries  and wondered why DEED                                                                    
was involved.  Acting Commissioner  Morse answered  that the                                                                    
Division  of   Libraries,  Archives  and   Museums  provided                                                                    
support for community libraries throughout the state.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Acting Commissioner  Morse touched  on key  challenges going                                                                    
forward (slide 15):                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
   ƒContinuous academic growth for all students, including                                                                     
     closing the achievement gap in reading, writing, math                                                                      
     and science                                                                                                                
   ƒRefine state standards and assessments                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Acting Commissioner  Morse elaborated  that DEED  planned to                                                                    
implement a  strong literacy plan  for students in  the next                                                                    
few months. The department was  excited about work with DLWD                                                                    
and the university. He expounded  that DEED was working with                                                                    
districts  on  underachievement  issues  and  on  the  Moore                                                                    
lawsuit.  Standards   had  been  revised  in   2005  and  if                                                                    
revisions took place  in the next year  assessments would be                                                                    
impacted in 2015 for 10 years.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Joule  asked   whether   the  high   school                                                                    
qualifying exit exam was used as an assessment tool.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Acting Commissioner  Morse answered  that the exit  exam did                                                                    
fall under the state  standard component. Specific standards                                                                    
were assessed on the required  exam that was given two times                                                                    
per year.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative Joule believed that at  one time the exam had                                                                    
reflected  material  at  the 8th  grade-level;  he  wondered                                                                    
whether that had changed.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Acting  Commissioner Morse  replied that  the language  arts                                                                    
components were primarily at 9th  and 10th grade-levels, the                                                                    
math portion was  currently a mixture of 8th,  9th, and 10th                                                                    
grade. The department was working  to increase the standards                                                                    
from   the  10th   grade  to   12th   grade-level  and   was                                                                    
coordinating with freshman-level  teachers to determine what                                                                    
should be included in the  standards to prepare students for                                                                    
vocational  school, university,  or other.  He believed  the                                                                    
process of  refining the standards  would have an  impact on                                                                    
the exam material.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stoltze discussed that in  past years the tests had                                                                    
not been  required for graduation,  but were  testing beyond                                                                    
the  current   level.  He  believed  that   DEED  had  spent                                                                    
approximately   $1  million   designing   a   test  that   a                                                                    
significant portion  of the bureaucracy  wanted to  fail. He                                                                    
thought  the test  had always  been intended  to be  a basic                                                                    
proficiency test and nothing more.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Costello  asked   whether  DEED   knew  Mr.                                                                    
Hanley's vision  for the department,  specifically regarding                                                                    
the  high  school  drop-out  rate.  She  believed  that  the                                                                    
education  system  failed  students   who  dropped  out  and                                                                    
wondered about plans to engage the students in classrooms.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Acting Commissioner Morse responded  that he had spoken with                                                                    
Mr. Hanley  and they  agreed on the  need to  address issues                                                                    
around  literacy at  a  much younger  age.  He relayed  that                                                                    
there  were  clear and  effective  programs  that the  state                                                                    
should utilize. Some of the  programs were scripted and were                                                                    
not fun  to teach, but  they worked. He believed  Mr. Hanley                                                                    
would be  very interested in career  and technical education                                                                    
to ensure students  would be prepared for  the various types                                                                    
of educational  opportunities subsequent to high  school. It                                                                    
was important  to provide students  with a broader  sense of                                                                    
opportunity  following  high  school in  order  to  increase                                                                    
their interest and engagement in the classroom.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:30:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Joule  asked  how many  children  were  home                                                                    
schooled or  attended private school in  Alaska and wondered                                                                    
whether  the  number was  an  indication  of the  confidence                                                                    
people  had in  the state  system. He  talked about  how the                                                                    
throughput  of   oil  ultimately   impacted  the   level  of                                                                    
education formula  funding and wondered whether  DEED or the                                                                    
board had discussed  what would happen if  levels of funding                                                                    
could not continue to be sustained.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Acting  Commissioner Morse  responded that  he did  not know                                                                    
the  number of  students attending  private schools  because                                                                    
the  schools were  not required  to report  their enrollment                                                                    
numbers.  He   explained  that   there  were   families  who                                                                    
privately   homeschooled  their   children  and   homeschool                                                                    
families  who registered  through  one of  the 14  statewide                                                                    
correspondence  schools.   He  estimated  that   there  were                                                                    
approximately 6,500  to 7,000  homeschool students  who fell                                                                    
into the  latter category,  but the  number did  not account                                                                    
for students taking correspondence  classes within their own                                                                    
districts. He  believed that the question  related to future                                                                    
funding  levels  would   require  significant  dialogue  and                                                                    
attention. He  noted that the  issue had been  raised around                                                                    
federal stimulus  money that would  not be continued  in the                                                                    
future. He believed  it was important to  determine what the                                                                    
system did well and to do it in a focused way.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative Joule remarked on  the tendency for people to                                                                    
believe that things would continue  to happen as they always                                                                    
had. An  increase in  boarding school  enrollment throughout                                                                    
the  state and  potential  future  budget constraints  could                                                                    
result in  the need  for change.  He wondered  whether there                                                                    
was a dialogue with school  districts or with the department                                                                    
about how the state delivered  education in a way that could                                                                    
resemble  a boarding  school format.  He believed  continued                                                                    
discussion about  alternatives was necessary and  would help                                                                    
people to realize that change was  not always as bad as they                                                                    
may have initially thought.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Acting Commissioner Morse replied  that there were currently                                                                    
three boarding  schools in  Alaska including,  Mt. Edgecumbe                                                                    
High School, Galena,  and Nenana. He did not  know how close                                                                    
the  schools  were  to  their  capacity,  but  believed  the                                                                    
schools  offered a  good alternative  for some  students. He                                                                    
had visited the schools in  Mt. Edgecumbe and Galena and was                                                                    
impressed by  programs including  the career  and technology                                                                    
educational   programs  at   Galena.  He   noted  that   the                                                                    
discussion  had  occurred; however,  there  had  not been  a                                                                    
conversation about  the long-term  direction of  the issues.                                                                    
He agreed  that the conversation  needed to occur  and would                                                                    
follow up with Mr. Hanley.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:38:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Wilson  was  concerned that  the  exit  exam                                                                    
included a 10th grade standard  and that students who passed                                                                    
the test  were led to  believe they were ready  for college.                                                                    
She  thought the  test should  include 11th  and 12th  grade                                                                    
standards and  believed that  limiting the  test to  a lower                                                                    
standard  was sending  the wrong  message  to students.  She                                                                    
emphasized the importance of a focus on K-12 education.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Acting Commissioner  Morse answered that  statutory language                                                                    
outlined that the  purpose of the test was "to  give a basic                                                                    
competency  test of  essential  skills." Historically  there                                                                    
had  been   extensive  community   dialogue  about   what  a                                                                    
competency  test  of  essential   skills  was.  He  believed                                                                    
whether the test was appropriate  for current students was a                                                                    
different question.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Thomas  wondered whether  an effort to  improve the                                                                    
38 percent  to 40 percent  failure rate was included  in the                                                                    
department's key challenges.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Acting  Commissioner  Morse  responded that  the  effort  to                                                                    
improve  the failure  rate was  included  in the  continuous                                                                    
academic  growth and  effective  use  of instructional  time                                                                    
categories.   He   relayed   that  the   improved   use   of                                                                    
instructional time would  increase students' opportunity for                                                                    
instruction by qualified teachers.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Thomas  wanted to make  certain that  the reduction                                                                    
of the  failure rate had  been included on  the department's                                                                    
list of goals.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Acting Commissioner Morse responded  in the affirmative. The                                                                    
department believed the  graduation rate needed improvement.                                                                    
He  pointed  to  small  improvements,   but  agreed  that  a                                                                    
graduation  rate of  66  percent meant  that  34 percent  of                                                                    
students were failing.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Thomas  remarked that the state  could not continue                                                                    
to award failure.  He discussed concern that  the 40 percent                                                                    
who failed could  end up in prison. He had  talked with DLWD                                                                    
and  had   learned  that  the  department   was  working  to                                                                    
encourage those individuals to  look at vocational education                                                                    
as an option.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:43:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Acting  Commissioner   Morse  addressed  the  last   of  the                                                                    
department's  key challenges  related to  the implementation                                                                    
of  federal laws  such  as  No Child  Left  Behind and  ARRA                                                                    
(slide 15).  He noted that  No Child Left Behind  would most                                                                    
likely be  reauthorized sometime  in the  next one  to three                                                                    
years. He  highlighted the DEED accomplishments  (slide 16),                                                                    
which  included  its  work with  the  Alaska  Commission  on                                                                    
Postsecondary Education  and DLWD on the  Alaska Performance                                                                    
Scholarship, continued  implementation of  statewide teacher                                                                    
mentoring and administrator  coaching, formative or practice                                                                    
assessments  to track  student skill  levels throughout  the                                                                    
year,  implementation of  the  technical assistance  program                                                                    
that helped  districts facing challenges with  students, and                                                                    
an  implementation  plan with  DLWD  and  the university  on                                                                    
college and  career preparedness. He  added that he  had met                                                                    
with  DLWD and  university  representatives  earlier in  the                                                                    
week regarding college preparedness.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Vice-chair Fairclough  asked whether  the state  was working                                                                    
with  the  university  to  pursue  the  possibility  of  the                                                                    
assignment of an ID number  to students that they would have                                                                    
throughout  their entire  school  experience within  Alaska,                                                                    
which  would  allow  the  state   to  see  where  inadequate                                                                    
education   had  been   received.  She   asked  for   a  job                                                                    
description of  the $200,000 budgeted position  for a school                                                                    
health and  safety coordinator,  which would  address family                                                                    
health  and domestic  violence (page  88  of the  department                                                                    
short forms). She discussed a  $400,000 budget item aimed at                                                                    
providing  positions  to   support  students  with  reading,                                                                    
science and math. She detailed  that similar, less expensive                                                                    
budget  items  had been  included  the  past few  years  and                                                                    
requested  an update  on  the success  of  the efforts.  The                                                                    
legislature  had  been told  the  budget  item had  been  to                                                                    
address  the Moore  case the  prior year  and to  support No                                                                    
Child Left  Behind during the  current year. She  noted that                                                                    
the department could get back to her with its response.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara  wondered  whether the  department  had                                                                    
considered applying for  federal Race to the  Top funds that                                                                    
rewarded  states   for  thinking  outside  of   the  box  to                                                                    
encourage educational  achievement. He noted that  40 states                                                                    
had applied  for the funds  and believed there did  not seem                                                                    
to  be  specific places  that  the  department was  thinking                                                                    
outside  of  the box  with  the  exception of  the  boarding                                                                    
school  discussion.   He  wondered  when  the   state  would                                                                    
permanently implement  the pre-K program that  was currently                                                                    
a  pilot program.  He emphasized  that 40  other states  had                                                                    
pre-K programs that included both  classrooms and parents as                                                                    
teachers. He  stressed that the  success of the  program was                                                                    
seen  in better  job  and income  rates,  lower jail  rates,                                                                    
higher graduation rates, et cetera.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Acting  Commissioner Morse  responded that  35 to  40 states                                                                    
had applied for  Race to the Top funds  and approximately 18                                                                    
states had  received funds from  the program. The  state had                                                                    
believed its  chance for receiving  the funding was  low and                                                                    
the   application  cost   was   approximately  $250,000   to                                                                    
$500,000; therefore,  it had  not applied.  The availability                                                                    
of Race to  the Top funds in the future  depended on federal                                                                    
appropriation and the state would  reassess whether to apply                                                                    
if  funds became  available. It  appeared  that states  with                                                                    
strong  local control  had a  more difficult  time receiving                                                                    
the funds and  that many states in the western  U.S. had not                                                                    
received the  federal money. The department  was prepared to                                                                    
discuss work  it had conducted  over the past  several years                                                                    
on pre-K and had included  a budget component related to the                                                                    
issue.  The  department had  brought  data  forward for  the                                                                    
education subcommittee  to review  based on  successful work                                                                    
that had been  done. He thought that  making pre-K available                                                                    
to all children required a broader policy conversation.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The meeting was adjourned at 3:53 PM.                                                                                           

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
DEED Overview HFIN 012711.pdf HFIN 1/27/2011 1:30:00 PM
HFIN Overview DFG 012711 PDF.pdf HFIN 1/27/2011 1:30:00 PM
FY11 Increment Background DF&G.pdf HFIN 1/27/2011 1:30:00 PM